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#1 Dec-11-2019 08:21:am

Kavik
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Name Rendering - NU

Hello,

How might one render "One Who Builds Many Fires" (as in a name for someone)??

Tindeuchan would be to build a fire. Wuld you need to add some sort of form of 'chweli' in there?

How might the phrase be spelt using SU spelling ( as well as NU)?

Thanks!

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#2 Dec-12-2019 07:41:am

sschkaak
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Re: Name Rendering - NU

Chweltendeucheet  (Mission Delaware NU) [In this word, -u- = -w'- and -ch- = -h-.]

Xèltëntehwèt  (Southern Unami)

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#3 Dec-12-2019 10:44:am

Kavik
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Re: Name Rendering - NU

Thanks very much!

The SU form you give is not the NU in SU orthography, but a distinct SU form, correct?

Is the final -cheet of the NU form like "cheat" or "kheet" (kh = SU 'x' / German 'ch')?

Thanks

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#4 Dec-12-2019 10:55:am

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Re: Name Rendering - NU

Forgot to ask - where is the main stress in the NU form?? khwel-t'n-DAYOO-cheat? The 'dayoo' here is a diphthong, but not sure if the e and u are pronounced separately or as a diphthong (??).

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#5 Dec-12-2019 12:38:pm

sschkaak
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Re: Name Rendering - NU

Kavik wrote:

Thanks very much!

You're welcome.

The SU form you give is not the NU in SU orthography, but a distinct SU form, correct?

Correct.

Is the final -cheet of the NU form like "cheat" or "kheet" (kh = SU 'x' / German 'ch')?

It's just -heet, pronounced like English 'hate.'  [The final -ch- = -h- in this form, as per my first reply.  the first ch = x.]

Thanks

Yuh!

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#6 Dec-12-2019 12:49:pm

sschkaak
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Re: Name Rendering - NU

Kavik wrote:

Forgot to ask - where is the main stress in the NU form?? khwel-t'n-DAYOO-cheat? The 'dayoo' here is a diphthong, but not sure if the e and u are pronounced separately or as a diphthong (??).

Main stress is on the third -e- in both forms.  Your "DAYOO" is actually pronounced as "DAY-W'.  The whole ending is "DAY-W-HATE."  In the SU form, this part of the word is pronounced like "DAY-H-WET."  Remember that that second -t- in the SU form is pronounced as -d- after the nasal (-n-).

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#7 Dec-12-2019 01:14:pm

Kavik
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Re: Name Rendering - NU

Thanks - yeah, the 'DAYOO' - wasn't sure how to show that phonetically, but yes, exactly as you state.

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