Woodland Indians Forum

Thanks very much for the insight!

Never thought of the Moravian Bible translations for "queen" - (female chief).

Thanks.

Can I take the 'ch' in the forms above as the way to show pre-aspirition? So if using SU spelling the form would be '-hkwe', or is the 'ch' something else?

Actually, both words do occur in SU:  sakimaxkwe ('woman chief') and metexkwe ('woman sweat doctor').  The latter term has taken on a specialized meaning, though it encompassed a wider range of meaning, originally.  That is:  Any kind of 'shaman woman.'

A few additional forms -

Although I doubt very much female guards and guides existed in Native culture, I would imagine it's still possible to construct the female equivalents of:

Kichkinet

Nutiket

I suspect there's a -chque- in these somewhere, but not sure where it would go. After or before the -et endings?

Since Kichkinet is something like "one who understands the marks", not sure if the form is by itself 'genderless'

Thanks for any insight.

Ah, okay - thanks for the insight on -chque!

I hope so.  Anything to correct those misusing the Lenape language.  I've done the same for Treebeard, Messochwen Teme, Evan Pritchard, the LNP, and others.  At least, the OA members usually listen to me.

Thanks - yes - as a linguist, I have to just cringe and bite my tongue when I hear some f=of the renditions

Hopefully at the very least those in the OA who are more diligent will realize that there is an actual correct way to say these things!

Yes, some Lodges do not exactly do 'regalia' any justice (to put it nicely). There are some, however, that put a great deal of effort into researching historical documents and learning from those who still have knowledge of the craft of making traditional regalia, to get it right.