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#51 Jul-23-2014 12:27:pm

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Re: El Bey Bagby/William McRae posing as Powhatan Renape-NJ

The Moors believe that they can create and appoint their own lawyers so I think Alfred Tar El probably doesn't have a license. hmm


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#52 Jul-27-2014 02:22:pm

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Friggin Al Carrol saves the world again? yikes   Your a day late and a dollar short dumbass now go play with your Celtic reconstructionist douche..........


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#53 Aug-10-2014 07:18:pm

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yikes

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#54 Aug-28-2014 05:04:am

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http://www.phillymag.com/news/2014/08/2 … otanicals/


Crown Prince Emperor El Bey Bagby was found guilty on Tuesday in Bucks County for driving under the influence of botanicals.

Let’s back up.

Crown Prince Emperor El Bey Bagby is known legally as William McRae. The botanicals are marijuana. In 2009, a Lower Makefield police officer pulled over the Crown Prince — I’ll play along here, unless my editor decides I’m not allowed to — for driving a vehicle with a temporary, hard-to-read tag. The officer said he spotted blunt guts in El Bey Bagby’s car — which reeked of marijuana. Judge Wallace Bateman found McRae, 41, guilty of the DUI.

Simple, and not really much of a story except that El Bey Bagby asserts he has the rights to 689,000 acres of the United States, including most of the area that made up the Louisiana Purchase. “We would ask him things and he would go off into pretty much nonsense,” Richard Meehl, a Lower Makefield police officer, testified. In court yesterday, the Crown Prince said he wouldn't say "marijuana," calling it a copyrighted word. He said he used "botanicals" for his blood pressure.


He also claims to be a member of the now-disbanded Powhatan Renape tribe, once headquartered in New Jersey. Outside of court yesterday, he talked to the Bucks County Courier Times’s Hayden Mitman:

Asked to clarify his arguments, McRae after the trial referred to the Eye of Providence, the pyramid and all-seeing eye on the back of the $1 bill. McRae claims this was his family’s seal, and that its placement on American currency proves his lineage and rightful ownership of the land. He added that his family owns land in “over 100” countries.

Obviously, the Daily News’s Jason Nark profiled the Crown Prince last year. The man known as El Bey Bagby has control of the group's phone number and has accepted artifacts on behalf of the tribe. Nark also noted the Crown Prince is wearing a Plains headdress and not one the Powhatan Renape tribe ever wore. Also, he attempted to raise $150,000 online; it ended with zero donations.

“We don’t know where he came from. We don’t know anything about him,” Obie Batchelor, a Powhatan Renape member, said. “He just popped up out of the woodwork. You can’t just pop up and claim yourself chief.”

Sentencing for his DUI is in 30 days.

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#55 Aug-30-2014 05:46:am

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"You can’t just pop up and claim yourself chief.”

lol

Of course they can.. everyone does it lol


Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Native American.

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#56 Dec-01-2014 02:43:pm

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Has anyone found anything out about what "artifacts" those stupid bitties gave him yet??????   hmm


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#57 Dec-03-2014 03:58:am

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NanticokePiney wrote:

Has anyone found anything out about what "artifacts" those stupid bitties gave him yet??????   hmm

Nope, I'm still working on it. I don't know if anyone else has though. hmm

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#58 Jan-27-2015 09:42:pm

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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man … 2821#bmb=1

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#59 Jan-28-2015 07:51:am

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#60 Jan-29-2015 12:53:am

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That's bold. I wonder what the judge said in chambers afterward...


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#61 Jan-29-2015 12:38:pm

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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man … 2821#bmb=1

Manhattan judge grants man, 19, bail after his dad sports Native American headdress to court
A man who says he's a leader in the Empire Washitaw Native American tribe wore a floor-length feather headdress to his son Kyree Trotman's court appearance on weapons charges Monday. He said he had a partial victory because the judge granted his son bail again after his initial bond was revoked.
BY SHAYNA JACOBS  NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, January 26, 2015, 6:04 PM



New York City owes him one.

A 42-year-old New Jersey man who says he's a leader in the Empire Washitaw Native American tribe wore a floor-length feather headdress to his son's court appearance Monday, hoping to get the attention of the Manhattan judge in his 19-year-old son's weapons case.

The garb-wearing spiritual dad, who identified himself only as the Crown Prince Emperor, wanted to tell Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Ronald Zweibel that state laws should not apply to his boy who, he says, is a descendant of natives who have true rights to Manhattan.

"This is my son's land," said Emperor, who lives on an Indian reservation and was with his 2-month-old baby in the court hallway. "My son's family was here 2,000 years before they settled."

His son had previously pled guilty in a July 2013 weapons possession case but is supposed to get his case sealed if he complies with the terms of his deal under a provision available to young offenders.

Emperor — who missed the case's actual calendar call — said he had a partial victory because the judge granted his son Kyree Trotman bail again after his initial bond was revoked for not reporting to the bondsman.

He was convinced his presence played a role.
"I'm kind of disappointed that I didn't interact directly with the judge," Emperor said, adding: "He did recognize me in order to see me. To release him."

Bail was set at $15,000 bond or $10,000 cash and Emperor said he should be able to spring his son soon.

He used the courthouse cameo to stake a claim to the city and land around it.

"I have all the original paperwork for the Statue of Liberty," he said.

"Be on the lookout for our own currency coming out the end of the year — with my face on it," he added.

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#62 Jan-29-2015 12:43:pm

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Photos and captions from above link:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2092820.1422312813!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/indian27n-1-web.jpg?enlarged

JEFFERSON SIEGEL/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
A man who says his name is Crown Prince Emperor holds his 2-month-old son as he waits for his 19-year-old son's case to be called in Manhattan Supreme Court on Monday.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2092819.1422312811!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/indian.jpg?enlarged

JEFFERSON SIEGEL/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
'Be on the lookout for our own currency coming out the end of the year — with my face on it,' Crown Prince Emperor declared after his headdressed appearance, he said, helped his 19-year-old son in a weapons case
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#63 Jan-29-2015 09:00:pm

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Are those ostrich feathers?


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#64 Jan-30-2015 08:35:pm

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I honestly thought they were chicken feathers from those really pretty black chickens (Sumatra?, I think).

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#65 Jan-30-2015 08:50:pm

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I think they are too. I think your also right about them being from a Southeast Asian breed. lol


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#66 Jan-31-2015 08:13:am

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You sure they're not duck feathers?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INDIAN-HEADDRES … 1415772996

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#67 Jan-31-2015 11:20:pm

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There is a resemblance, no? Anyhow, they ain't eagle feathers. But a mail order headdress from Indonesia...now there's a concept...


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#68 Feb-21-2015 08:45:pm

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http://www.empirewashitaw.org/index.php … gy-Project


We have this somewhere? Don't remember.


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#69 Feb-22-2015 12:18:am

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Dug da mound yah. Doesn't sound even creatively original... but who am I to criticize a language (Washitaw?) I don't speak... tongue


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#70 Feb-22-2015 08:31:am

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http://www.pamunkey.net/

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OFFICIAL PAMUNKEY TRIBAL STATEMENT

The individual known and/or self-proclaimed as Crown Prince Emperor El Bey Bigbay (or other variations of this name) and also known as William McRea, is not associated with the Pamunkey Indian Tribe/Nation nor the Pamunkey Tribal Government despite statements made by this individual or others, either spoken or written, to include the Facebook identity, "Pamunkey Nation".  This individual’s use of images associated with the Pamunkey Indian Tribe/Nation is not approved by the Pamunkey Indian Tribe.  The public is encouraged to research this individual's history on the Internet to learn more.

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#71 Feb-22-2015 02:41:pm

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tree hugger wrote:

http://www.pamunkey.net/

Pamunkey Indian Tribe
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OFFICIAL PAMUNKEY TRIBAL STATEMENT

The individual known and/or self-proclaimed as Crown Prince Emperor El Bey Bigbay (or other variations of this name) and also known as William McRea, is not associated with the Pamunkey Indian Tribe/Nation nor the Pamunkey Tribal Government despite statements made by this individual or others, either spoken or written, to include the Facebook identity, "Pamunkey Nation".  This individual’s use of images associated with the Pamunkey Indian Tribe/Nation is not approved by the Pamunkey Indian Tribe.  The public is encouraged to research this individual's history on the Internet to learn more.

Here's the fraudulent Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pamunkey … 3335580413

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#72 Feb-22-2015 02:50:pm

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He's got a fraudulent website under construction too.

   http://www.pamunkeytribe.com/

  This is outta control


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#73 Mar-11-2015 09:15:pm

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Another one of his fake Pamunkey sites.   http://www.pamunkeytribe.org/chief-of-p … tribe.html


   Some type of medical scam.  http://www.hipaaspace.com/Medical_Billi … 39061.aspx



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Ayamariee Also Mariee Antonite Was the Pamunkey Queen She was the Queen of the Washitaw Nation ,Her father lived in Hopewell New Jersey ,Europeons ran them from Hopewell New Jersey to North South Carolina to Virginia,and Also the First Wall Street Washitaw own .This was in Bixby Oklahoma . In New Jersey Washitaw Has land it is Under The Annie Parke Purchase Pa=Pamunkey rke is Cherikee=Chericoke 1776 Bethleham Baptist Church =Treaty With Six Nation +Decleration of Independance.I Have all the Paper Work ,and These Documents were Left to the Family By uncle Charle of King William County .He is Bruried on Chericoke ,this Land is Unincorperated Land. This Land =West Point Pamunkey Baptist Asso Started by Uncle Samuel B Holmes= Treaty Camp Holmes !836=Hoomes=King William Acadamy Trainning School.


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#74 Mar-12-2015 07:24:am

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This is getting weird (er).
The Treaty of Camp Holmes was in 1835, with *Comanches*. 

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#75 Mar-12-2015 10:04:pm

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NanticokePiney wrote:

He's got a fraudulent website under construction too.

   http://www.pamunkeytribe.com/

  This is outta control

He took this one down.


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