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EXCELLENT posts!  How soon some people forget!

hmmmm....  well, it is not the first time that folks out that way have had a brief memory loss....

  There is also a brief mention of the New Jersey Indians in the 1988 presentation at Kent State, where Jim Revey, a New Jersey Delaware, Sand Hill, spoke as did some of the Oklahoma Delaware folks...

and there is also the Symposium on April 27, 2002, in Dover Delaware, that was attended by Oklahoma Delaware, Nanticoke/Lenape, Munsee from Canada, Ramapough Lenape, and Lenape Indian Tribe of Delaware....

and more..

"THE FEDERAL POLICY.
THE TRIBAL RELATION.
The separate existence of the Indians in tribes invites attack and is in this respect an element of weakness, yet, nevertheless, it -is absolutely necessary to preserve them in that condition until they are sufficiently civilized to be made citizens in fact, not merely in name and thus become able to take their chances with other men in the battle of life. A writer in the Friends' Review says, that in 1870, Pleasant Porter, a leading Creek, said to him :
"If our country be placed under a territorial government and whites come in upon us, the few of us, who are educated so as to avail ourselves of the sale of lands, will become rich. But the mass of the people will soon lose their all and become vagabonds and fugitives. For untold generations, your people have held property in severalty and have had hereditary habits of acquiring and holding possession and of looking to the future. For untold generations our people have held property in common, have learned only to supply our present wants and
to care nothing for the future, and when we are brought into contact you eat us up."

Looks like they learned the lesson well and now I assume this new attack is for land rights and they will try and do the same here.

tree hugger wrote:

sschkaak wrote:

EXCELLENT posts!  How soon some people forget!

I don't think they forgot, but I bet they wish everyone else did.

When your right no one remembers. When your wrong no one forgets.....and I forget no wrongs.   It looks like it  got interesting in my absence. I wonder what Curtis Z.'s take is on this. I distinctly remember him "hobnobbing" with  some highly questionable folks in P.A........

ramapoughnative wrote:

What's up cuz'!   How have you been?

Not unwell.   Rather disgusted though seeing Jerry's letter. Another turd that better look into some South Jersey Quaker records before he runs with his choke out.....

lenape wrote:

NanticokePiney wrote:

I wonder what Curtis Z.'s take is on this. I distinctly remember him "hobnobbing" with  some highly questionable folks in P.A........

He' Piney!!

  Well, I spoke with Curtis about this a couple weeks ago and he sent a letter to "Mr." Douglas that was almost identical to mine(Check your email), in fact there are not many out there that old Jerry Douglas is speaking for, some from the Traditional communities add to and forwarded my letter to him also.  Others didn't even know that this "resolution" was "out there", so it seems that this is a private agenda of a select few of "hang around the fort indians", however I am kind of surprised at one of the signatures, though I guess when one rides with one foot in each canoe it is easy to bounce back and forth....

Ps, got my phone back, give me a call sometime Piney, missed ya at philly!

So we have to send Jerry a big spanner wrench so he can unscrew his head from his ass and stick it where it belongs.

Well...  The entire Delaware Tribe Council signed the letter to the Penn Treaty Museum (not just the Chief), and the Council and Trust Board agreed to the Resolution.  There's an easy way to counter these:  With evidence and documentation.

They have the evidence It's not hard to find.. I think it's because we stuck it out, they left and now try to hold a power over who's left. It should be the other way round.. they came from here. I'm sorry but i'm neither in want nor need of their acceptance..

Last edited by ramapoughnative (Apr-02-2010 01:25:am)

I know that about you Rich.. cut from the same cloth.. Just can't understand all the effort put into getting them to notice us. Some here did for them when they needed it, now they got what they wanted and the people here are ghosts to them. Why bother? The sun will still rise and set without them.

  yeppers!  Have a great Easter to everyone here ( you are all my family)!

Thanks Steven. Happy Bunny Day to you too.

Sorry for the delay in getting this up here.