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#1 Feb-08-2010 09:17:am

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Sikh judge criticises dagger bans

Sikhs should be allowed to wear their ceremonial daggers - known as Kirpans - to school and other public places, Britain's first Asian judge has said.

There have been a number of cases of Sikhs being refused entry to venues because they wear the Kirpan or other religious artefacts.

Sir Mota Singh QC has now criticised schools, in particular, over the issue.

"Not allowing someone who is baptised to wear a Kirpan is not right," Sir Mota told BBC Asian Network.

'No objection'

Last year, a Sikh police officer, who had been told to remove his turban during riot training, won a discrimination case against Greater Manchester Police.

A schoolboy was also banned from wearing his Kirpan at a school in Barnet, London.

And, in 2008, 14-year-old Sarika Singh won a High Court case against her school after it excluded her for breaking its "no jewellery" rule for wearing a Kara (steel bangle), which is another symbol of Sikh faith.

The school was found guilty of indirect discrimination under race relations and equality laws.

"I see no objection to a young Sikh girl or boy, who's been baptised, being allowed to wear their Kirpan if that's what they want to do," said Sir Mota, who received a knighthood in the 2010 New Year Honours list.

"I wear my Kirpan and I've always worn it for the last 35 to 40 years, even when I was sitting in court or visiting public buildings, including Buckingham Palace."

Sir Mota, who is now retired, added: "I think these are issues that can be dealt with with a certain amount of sensitivity.

"The girl not allowed to wear the Kara is a petty thing for the administrators to have done and it doesn't do them any good.

"It is the right of every young girl and boy to be educated at the school of their choice. For him or her to be refused admission on that sort of ground, as far as I'm concerned, is quite wrong.

"It ought not to happen but it does. I think it's wrong to be discriminated against for that reason."

Worried parents

In Sikhism, the Kirpan and Kara are two of the five "articles of faith" that must be carried at all times by baptised Sikhs.

The others are Kesh (unshorn hair), Kara, Kanga (comb) and Kacha (special underwear).

The Kirpan is carried in a sheath attached to a cloth belt. It is normally worn discreetly under clothes and most people would be unaware that a person was carrying one.

Guidelines from the department for Children, Schools and Families indicate it is up to individual governing bodies to make their own policy on the carrying of the Kirpan, and if challenged, it would then be up to the courts.

Dabinderjit Singh is an adviser to the Sikh Federation UK and he says he regularly receives calls from worried Sikh parents whose children have been prevented from wearing the Kirpan at school and in public areas.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8500712.stm


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#2 Feb-08-2010 11:49:pm

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Re: Sikh judge criticises dagger bans

The Sikhs are one of the most honorable religions I ever knew. I admire them....... but there was this scimitar fight at the local Bridgeton temple that was alittle unnerving. yikes


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#3 Feb-09-2010 02:31:am

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Re: Sikh judge criticises dagger bans

Schools here in the United States have very strict rules about weapons. I doubt if Sikh children would be permitted to carry their Kirpan. I wonder if it's ever been challenged.

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#4 Feb-09-2010 03:21:am

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Re: Sikh judge criticises dagger bans

bls926 wrote:

Schools here in the United States have very strict rules about weapons. I doubt if Sikh children would be permitted to carry their Kirpan. I wonder if it's ever been challenged.

Yes, in New York and Ohio. In New York City, the compromise reached was that the dagger had to be glued into the sheath so that it could not be drawn. (Source: Wikipedia)

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#5 Feb-09-2010 03:27:am

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Re: Sikh judge criticises dagger bans

What was the outcome?

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