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#1 Mar-12-2013 07:20:pm

dharmaofatisha
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Did any displaced natives participate in 1830s removal?

In doing some family research,
i found this curious bit of information. May be unconnected with the rolls, but, I was hoping someone older may have more knowledge if this occurred.

Here is the list of 1838 Cherokee removal muster list, with two Vaughn names:
http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/statew … indian.txt

NORTH CAROLINA REGIMENT
          COMPANY E
          BURKE COUNTY VOLUNTEERS

          ISSAC HICKS         CAPTAIN
          BURIS ALNEY         1ST LIEUTENANT
          ALNET BURGIS        1ST LIEUTENANT
          JESSE BURGIN        IST SERGEANT
          ISAAC HERMAN        3RD SERGEANT
          ISAAC HEMAN         3RD SERGEANT
          JAMES STROUD        4TH SERGEANT
                DUNCAN        1ST CORPORAL
          JOHN JARRETT        2ND CORPORAL
          JOSEPH STRUART      3RD CORPORAL
          JOSEPH TRUART       3RD CORPORAL
          CHARLES HANEY       4TH CORPORAL
          JAMES LONG          MUSICIAN
          JOSHUA OUNGER       MUSICIAN

          POSEY ALLISON                      THOMAS ALLISON
          JOHN ARROWOOD                      JAMES BAILEY
          FRANCIS A. BIRD                    AARON BRIGHT
          MERRILL BROWN                      JOSEPH BURGESS
          JOSIAH BURGIN                      BERRY BURNETT
          ISRAEL CARVER                      ABSALOM CLARK
          J. W. CUTHBERTSON                  ELIAS DAVIS
          WILLIS ELDER                       JOSEPH ENGLAND
          DAVID J. ENGLISH                   THOMAS ERWIN
          JAMES FINLEY                       WILLIAM FINLEY
          JOHN FLEMMING                      ANDREW FRADY
          G. W. GILLESPIE                    HENRY GLASS
          ALFRED GREEN                       ARCHIBALD HARRIS
          JAMES HARRIS                       WILLIAM HAWKINS
          JOSEPH HILL                        MICHAEL HILL
          SIMON HILLARD                      B. D. JOHNSTON
          JOSEPH JUSTICE                     ROBERT JUSTICE
          DRURY LONG                         A. B. McFALLS
          ALEXANDER McKINSEY                 ZADOC MARTIN
          FRANKLIN MORROW                    JASPER NEAL
          JOHN NOBLET                        JAMES SOUTHER
          JOHN STROUD                        WILLIAM STROUD
          JESSE SOUTHER                      JAMES STROUD
          JOHN THOMPSON                      JOSEPH THOMPSON
          JOEL VANOY                         JOSIAH VAUGHN                       
          MICAJAH VAUGHN                     ZIMRI WALLS
          HOSHUA WHITAKER                    JOHN WHITTINGTON
          HIRAM WILSON                       JOSEPH WILSON
          POSEY WOODS                        CHARLES M. YOUNG

Now, here is the 1854 Act of Congress roll
http://www.tngennet.org/cherokee_by_blood/aoc.htm

7031    Mary Vaughn (daughter of Old Joseph)                     371.28

            Martha

            Mary I 

            David



7032    Josiah E. Vaughn (son of Mary Vaughn)                     92.82


Timeline indicates that Josiah would have been just old enough to serve in the removal, and he may also have been Cherokee.

I know this is a pretty sensitive issue to speak of. Personally i am doing research on a Vaughn great great great etc grandmother who may have been Cherokee, so am uncovering as much info on Burke County NC Vaughns. It was odd to find this and have no idea what to make of it. the historical pressures of the displaced natives of all tribes, just to survive in the european society, are difficult for many of us to imagine today. As i think on these things, I feel great amount of gratitude to all the heros of the past 60 years, who stood up for indigenous/minority rights! Without people like MLK Jr or Rosa Parks, the AIM, Idle No More, so many countless others, where would we be.

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#2 Mar-13-2013 10:20:am

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Re: Did any displaced natives participate in 1830s removal?

I would suggest taking the Family Tree DNA "Family Finder" Test (currently, $289), which has a component called "Population Finder," which uses over 400,000 genetic markers to determine your biogeographical ancestry.  This would show you if you have any significant or measureable percentage of American Indian ancestry.  At that point, you could tell whether or not you'd want to pursue traditional genealogical research.

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#3 Mar-14-2013 10:20:pm

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Re: Did any displaced natives participate in 1830s removal?

not a big fan of that.
guess it would be wonderful to know "for sure" that there is somewhere. just, to me, the whole governtment support that "science" gets really begins to erode other cultural ways of living. It is threatening extinction of many wolves, buffalo, myriads of plant life, dolphins, whales, water supply.



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More than 560 wolves have been killed in the Northern Rockies this season alone -- and that number continues to rise.

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#4 Mar-14-2013 10:31:pm

dharmaofatisha
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Re: Did any displaced natives participate in 1830s removal?

but it is fascinating to think. .. . .I appreciate.

dharmaofatisha wrote:

not a big fan of that.
guess it would be wonderful to know "for sure" that there is somewhere. just, to me, the whole governtment support that "science" gets really begins to erode other cultural ways of living. It is threatening extinction of many wolves, buffalo, myriads of plant life, dolphins, whales, water supply.



https://www.facebook.com/StopTheDiabloC … micTesting



More than 1,100 wolves have been killed as a result of hunting and trapping in the Northern Rockies since Congress stripped them of Endangered Species Act protection in 2011.

It's hard to fathom that just two weeks ago, Wyoming opened even more of their state to the unlimited killing of wolves!

Protecting wolves is a long-term challenge, and we are committed to the cause. Please help us win the war on wolves with a generous gift today.

It’s not just Wyoming. Across the Northern Rockies and beyond, anti-wolf extremists are mounting a well-funded and unrelenting attack:

The governor of Montana recently signed a bill into law that prohibits state wildlife officials from establishing protective buffer zones along national park borders, a measure that would have helped protect Yellowstone wolves.
In Utah, a shameful and fiscally-irresponsible proposal by anti-wolf extremists just passed out of committee. If finalized, this measure will allocate $300,000 of taxpayer money to anti-wolf lobbying efforts in Washington D.C. – aiming to strip the last shreds of federal protection for nearly all gray wolves across the Lower 48.
In Idaho, state officials approved a proposal to pay Wildlife Services $50,000 to kill more wolves.
We’re witnessing firsthand what happens when the fate of wolves is turned over to states with extreme anti-wolf management plans in place.

More than 560 wolves have been killed in the Northern Rockies this season alone -- and that number continues to rise.

There is no reason to allow this many wolves to be killed. It’s 100% rabid, anti-wolf politics that is driving state management, not science. Make no mistake – there is a war on wolves.

These magnificent and misunderstood top predators need our help.

Defenders of Wildlife is America’s premier wildlife advocacy organization working to protect endangered wildlife. Our science and legal teams are renowned in the field. We are leading efforts and speaking out across the country on behalf of wolves, to help ensure that our nation’s imperiled wildlife receive the crucial protection they deserve and need in order to recover.   

We will not let politics get in the way of our work for wolves. Your urgent donation will make a big difference.

Thanks for all that you do for wolves – and America’s endangered wildlife.

   
Sincerely,

Jamie Rappaport Clark
President
Defenders of Wildlife

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