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#26 Mar-19-2014 09:39:am

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Will do!

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#27 Mar-20-2014 08:59:am

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Thank you!!!!

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#28 Mar-20-2014 11:48:am

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He says he will try as soon as he can.

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#29 Mar-23-2014 12:45:pm

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BUMP WHILE PINEY IS LOGGED IN!!

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#30 Mar-23-2014 01:06:pm

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Although we found no evidence of corn on the Outer Coastal Plain prior to contact Alan Mounier found evidence of maygrass . The current evidence shows that it was probably brought East, along with osage orange, by the Adena-Middlesex people.


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#31 Mar-24-2014 04:57:pm

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Osage orange was brought East!? No kidding. That's really cool. I don't recall whether the Bartons or Bartrams ever mentioned it as a local native plant, though. It has such a distant current native distribution.
Reminds me a little bit of the American Lotus (Nelumbo lutea). It is probably native to the region, but grows in such small disjunct populations around the Northeast that some have theorized that it was spread by native peoples.

- Justin

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#32 Apr-06-2014 03:35:pm

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Re: Horticulture and Gathering on the Outer Coastal Plain- For/ Against

Papelanek wrote:

Osage orange was brought East!? No kidding. That's really cool. I don't recall whether the Bartons or Bartrams ever mentioned it as a local native plant, though. It has such a distant current native distribution.
Reminds me a little bit of the American Lotus (Nelumbo lutea). It is probably native to the region, but grows in such small disjunct populations around the Northeast that some have theorized that it was spread by native peoples.

- Justin

I think it was. Those beds of FCR found along river lines were used to process them. It's how our Northwestern cousins still process camas bulbs. A bed of hot rocks a layer of lily, water lily, cat tail, or camas roots another bed of hot rocks and than dirt.


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#33 Apr-11-2014 08:16:pm

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When you all said osage orange, I thought you meant bois de arc:|smile

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#34 Apr-11-2014 11:37:pm

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That is the same thing. Same tree, different name in a different region.


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#35 Apr-13-2014 01:31:pm

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Re: Horticulture and Gathering on the Outer Coastal Plain- For/ Against

Although we found no evidence of corn on the Outer Coastal Plain prior to contact Alan Mounier found evidence of maygrass . The current evidence shows that it was probably brought East, along with osage orange, by the Adena-Middlesex people.


Oh I see....ppl were talking about plants, not trees, so I was like ??? smile

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#36 Jul-07-2014 11:56:am

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Re: Horticulture and Gathering on the Outer Coastal Plain- For/ Against

Papelanek wrote:

Osage orange was brought East!? No kidding. That's really cool. I don't recall whether the Bartons or Bartrams ever mentioned it as a local native plant, though. It has such a distant current native distribution.
Reminds me a little bit of the American Lotus (Nelumbo lutea). It is probably native to the region, but grows in such small disjunct populations around the Northeast that some have theorized that it was spread by native peoples.

- Justin

I just had a thought that the Fox Creek people just might of brought American Lotus in when they came on their trips. It makes sense since it doesn't seem logical that they just came to fish and there is no signs of trade. They planted the beds and shared them with the local Bushkill People.


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#37 Jun-21-2015 11:15:am

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Re: Horticulture and Gathering on the Outer Coastal Plain- For/ Against

We have found that the term, ampkone--referenced in Message #8, above--actually meant "spoon" or "ladle," rather than "frying pan."  See Frank T. Siebert's article, "Resurrecting Virginia Algonquian from the Dead," pp. 388-389, for the identification.

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