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Thanks, sschkaak, that's interesting. Well, climate change, drought can do a lot. I was a kid in Texas in the 1950's drought, and I saw the 1970's drought. My Dad saw a worse drought, where the Brazos river dried up, and Texas Indians saw a WORSE drought before other ppl came to Texas. They said it killed mesquite trees to the High Plains, well, that there was no water from North Central Texas to the High Plains. Well, the Texas Indians didn't just "say", when people other than Texas Indians came to Tx about 1840-50, there were dead mesquite trees from central Texas to the High Plains. A drought, that I've seen, lasted about 10 or more years. The one the Indians saw in Texas, must have been something else. I've never seen a drought kill out mesquites, they have long roots.